Hey guys currently have a 2002 GPR w/ around 50 hours on it full stage one + kit that I am about to sell and move on to a new craft. I have enjoyed this boat, but the hole shot and top end just isnt doing it for me anymore, not to mention i've had probs with the carbs starting after it has sat all winter and decided to sell the boat and move on to Fuel Injection. I am currently debating between a stage 2 RXP RRE or a stage two GPR. What would you guys go with?

Ride them both so you can decide.

RXP guys will tell you RXP, GPR guys will tell you GPR.

yeah thats what i cant decide. I have been on both and am a tried and trued GPR guy but something about the power the RXP puts out in top end and holeshot both stock and modded amazes me. My gpr never felt that "snappy" out of the hole

If I had the money this is what I would do. Buy a used 03 and up GPR, obviously the newest and in best condition one you could find. Send it (or the motor) off to Group K, Kerry, or Lowell and have them set you up a 75+ mph ski. Im not sure about Group K or Lowell pricing, but I know that for around $3500 you can have Kerry build you a 75+ mph ski that handles too. So a used GPR 03 and up plus around $3500 is going to be way cheaper than an RXP and faster. This is what I plan to do in about a year (granted Yamaha doesnt come out with something new).

see thats my main problem, i've thought about keeping my 2 smoke GPR and either go tripples or build it up, but i am tired of dealing with the carbs and hard starts i have with my GPR.it seems to me that an RXP w/ the stage two or three kit when it comes out would be a fairly reliable gas and go boat. Tell me this though, do the new GPR's and RXP require 92+ oct gas because the marinas on the lakes i ride on now dont sell anything besides regular. The boat also has to be new so that throws away a used boat.

sweet recalled my old log in

The reason I got the RXP was because I got tired of wrenching on my GPR.

The RXP will require at least 91 octane.

hmm this is no good. i called every marina on the lake and no one sells higher than 87-89 and since i am keeping them docked there, no trailer sounds like i am scrwed. would it work if i added say 5-7 gallons of 100oct to 87 to bring the overall octane to above 91?

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Originally posted by TXGP1200R:
see thats my main problem, i've thought about keeping my 2 smoke GPR and either go tripples or build it up, but i am tired of dealing with the carbs and hard starts i have with my GPR.it seems to me that an RXP w/ the stage two or three kit when it comes out would be a fairly reliable gas and go boat. Tell me this though, do the new GPR's and RXP require 92+ oct gas because the marinas on the lakes i ride on now dont sell anything besides regular. The boat also has to be new so that throws away a used boat.

The GPR doesnt require premium gas stock. Obviously the deeper into the mods you get the more likely the ski is to start having problems. I am coming up on 200 hours on my GPR and the ONLY problem I have had was the cat con going out, granted I only have Stage 2+ mods. Why is it that you have to have a new ski? With the money you save from buying a NICE used one you can almost pay for a 75+ mph package.

The RXP/RXT is a great platform. I have an RXT and have spent a good bit of time on a stock RXP. While the power is addictive, the handling and unpredictability of the RXP hull is a big turn-off. I just feel that what the RXP has over the GPR I can have Kerry or someone fix. Its hard to fix the weight and poor hull design of the RXP. It really boils down to your riding style though.

Good luck, you really cant go wrong with either.

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Originally posted by TXGP12:
hmm this is no good. i called every marina on the lake and no one sells higher than 87-89 and since i am keeping them docked there, no trailer sounds like i am scrwed. would it work if i added say 5-7 gallons of 100oct to 87 to bring the overall octane to above 91?

The GPR would require 93 octane once you started modding it the way I assume you would.

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would it work if i added say 5-7 gallons of 100oct to 87 to bring the overall octane to above 91?

That'll work but will get expensive REAL fast! Probably cheaper to just fill up some 5 gallon containers and taking them to the dock.

thats what i planned on doing, but i am alreadying paying $4+ on the dock and they wont allow us to fill them with cans so im thinking about sneaking in a small thing of 100 to run it off of. i heard if i get the hand' kit for the RXP it handles alot better. i currently run 93 in my gpr, but now that she has 40 hours on her i am ready to get rid of her for a new boat so i dont have to deal with wrenching due to the nature of the mods i want to go if i keep her. i figure if i can get a Stage 2 RXP that will turn 75 on 92 and not have to dial it in all the time it sounds like a winner as long as the hull isnt "that" bad. I have the option to get a new GPR or RXP but it seems the gpr is more limited in terms of performance unless you want to wrench

which hull is a better rough water hull? My gpr always came unhooked in the chop

The RXP nose hunts like a mother f*##9# in the chop. GPR is hands down the better rough water boat when set up properly. FYI, a guy on my lake as an 03 GPR, sent it to Kerry along with $3500, and that boat runs 75+ all day every day, summer after summer. His setup is very reliable and he only puts what you need on the boat. It sounds like you have not ridden an RXP. I highly recommend getting some seat time on one in ALL types of water conditions.

i've only been on one in near glass to 3-4" ripple nothing heavy like i've put my current GPR through. It seems that the RXP has a holeshot that i've never seen on a yami. i've debated keeping mine and either going 1400cc big bore or big bore single pipe w/ the fercho/kerry goodies but i really dont want to have to hassle and wrench like i do now. the reason my boat is a 2002 with 45-50 hours on it is that it sits in the shops after riding it for weeks to figure out why it keeps bogging out of the hole and then snapping in like a rocket after 30. the whole ditch the carbs go efi sounds so much better to me, esp since its not at the lake house with a private dock anymore and now at a marina with no wake zones and blowing white smoke

thats the one thing that i've noticed though on seadoo hulls, they always feel wobbly and i hate opas which would go if i go this route

Both skis have their problems stock. The GPR comes unhooked in chop and porpoises as well as chine walks. The RXP hunts around in chop at higher speeds. Putting a stage 2 kit on both pretty much eliminates if not reduces those effects considerably. Stage 2 on both skis really improves the skis. The stage 2 RXP is faster all around than a stage 2 GPR. That's stage 2 for stage 2 no other tinkering. But if you hated messing with your carbs you are definitely going to hate working on your clutch. Maybe seadoo fixed the problem with the 06 models, not sure yet no one has reported loosing their clutches on an 06 model that I have heard of but some that have put the 06 clutches on their 04s or 05s have had problems. You could wait and see what the 07s are going to be. This time yamaha has to come out with something different or they may just not offer a 2 seater performance craft. Or you can just go get an FX HO because $3 a gallon gas is here to stay.

3 bucks...man i wish i was getting it that cheap, as bad as it sounds lol, on the the lake. Gotta have a muscle craft, but yamaha let me down with the 06 gpr in terms of perfomance stock. I def plan on changing the clutch and getting a bov if i go the dark side route. i mainly want a 75mph reliable ski since i no longer have a private dock and have to deal with the marina now. Granted once the house is complete i'll have a 5 car garage with a shop above so plenty of room to work, but really dont want to have to wrench if i dont have to anymore once the mods are on. thats the main reason i am considering buying a Riva Racing Edition RXP and having a stage 2, or 3 if it's ever released kit bolted on and tuned directly from Riva

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Originally posted by Green Hornet:
The RXP hunts around in chop at higher speeds...

What exactly does that mean? I have read this before but don't really know.

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But if you hated messing with your carbs you are definitely going to hate working on your clutch...

Taking a S/C out and changing the clutches is very easy to do. Working on the carbs is really not that bad either...just a pain dealing with the stinger pipe.

Hunting is similar to wandering. When you encounter cross-chop or wake the hull will wander side to side or the nose will suddenly shift to one direction; even though you're holding the bars straight. It's not so bad that you'll get thrown (aka ejected), but it can be unnerving at high speed. Especially if you're not ready for it.

You don't need to correct for it unless you hit a good sized wake or the boat veer's suddenly. The worse thing you can do is overcompensate. That's usually how riders get thrown.