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Looking at your standard SC kit, the filter cone is directly on the SC itself. That will collect air from the engine compartment area. This location will be diectly over the exuast plumbing. Not a cool place for when your on your second lap on the bouys. That engine will be getting warmer. Is that intercooler going to keep up with the rise in temp in that engine area. Is this what prompted the guys at Teem Green to install the "pro-series filter kit". That reqiures you to install the carbon fiber seat kit, but the seat that seperates the engines hot air away from the "pro-series filter kit" is not even made yet. Kawasaki had to fabricate one from a seat left over from a STXR race boat. Will your kit to not loose horse power and stay reliable or will it need some sort of engine heat ventalation system. Seperating cool intake air from engine hot air. It is possible to remove tie loops closer to the back seat. Then install a reversed scoop drawing air out those locations. One will need to fabricate this set. Then the Pro-Series Kit with seat that seperates engine hot air out and away from the cool intake.
Your friend the "young 4-stroke owner"
Excuse me for bad spelling.

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I'm not sure, but I think your post is directed at RIVA. If not sorry for jumping in.

Yes, our "standard" supercharger intake set-up draws in air from inside the engine compartment which will be warmer than the outside air temperature. But, our intercooler set-up is very efficient and our Free Flow Exhaust Kit helps reduce the temperature in the engine compartment as well. Combined that promotes performance and will work just fine for the weekend warriors!

The Pro-Series Kit is an "optional upgrade" that requires you to run the carbon racing seat that we will be offering as well. This set-up is for the serious racer primarily. The carbon racing seat isn't designed for everyday riding, nor for multiple passengers. It's just comfortable enough to get you through a race where you will be standing and sitting.

Your idea of installing a reverse scoop system to draw air out of the hull makes sense. Let us know if it works for you! Wink (BTW that's not a sarcastic wink!)


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I am not attacking anyone. Yes I come off harsh but it cuts through alot of BS. I am only learning as much as I can before I end up dropping almost 14K of upgrades into my boat. Its the most expensive race boat Ill have to date. As far as a weekend warrior, holy moly a guy or girl will drop $10,200.00 then add 25 hrs labor on a kit that can only run on MS109 $7.50 a gallon. (trying to joke back). I again am not attacking RIVA but your kit says FOR CLOSED COARSE RACING ONLY. Alright Ill leave you alone about this. RIVA has always made awsome parts and kits, so this is not any different but you must admit that your offering cutting edge technology for watercraft. With that it would be fair to look at every aspect of the consumers concerns. My 15f will hit the races and seldom practiced, Ill beat on my STXR for that. Less abuse than a weekend warrior. Not being mean here. Any way I dont want to start anything. I am buying this kit, no doubt about it. So I love it. Now give it to me already.... (joke)
Oh and the problems that I have spoke of and the conclusions are not me being a know it all. It has come from the Kawa Gods themself. Friends are a buetifull thing. I just like to share because the 15 F kits that are going out RIVA doors will end up in the hands of serious racers.... No doubt about it. Racing is a passion that has no price tag.
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"Young 4-stoker" kinda has a coll ring to it.
 
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Ok To everyone reading this, the statment or claims I have made in this post are solely my personal opinion and based on third party information collected by myself. I am making it clear that these issue brought forth are NOT a discredit the RIVA 15F Supercharger Kit. The issue are brought forth only as to collect data or info for those select group of boats that will be competivaly racing and put under extream performance demands. RIVA is offering upgrades to this kit that cover the issue of "engine warm air and cool intake".
 
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I have not looked at a rule book lately, but correct me if I'm wrong but you can't add the air intakes to the hull. Only through the hood and seat. At least under superstock rules that is. We did that on our XP800 mod class boats back in the day. We took the vacuhold off a commercial sewing cover and riveted them to the hull and sealed them with silicone. Then when the rules changed to superstock, we had to reglass the holes in to be legal. TCR
 
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The holes are already there. just replacing the tie loops with a vent to allow air out of the hull. Will look hard for that but this boat can only run in mod class anyway so for me its a new can of worms.
 
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Actually, the "holes" aren't already there. They are made to allow the cleats to be installed. That would be a hull modification which typically is considered illegal by the IJSBA.


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Again looking into that. Hull mods are not permitted but looking into why the boats from Factory Team dont evan have the tie loops. Like NASCAR Teams you have to push every rule and part to its limit. Im sure Factory Team has often ran a boat that if was completely measured tested and sniffed would rise a brow or two.
Just got a phone call on that. Aftermarket parts are allowed on hull so the conclusion is a simple aftermarket tie loop that has a vented back side. Black grill mesh. We will see how it goes over... The speed of that boat will cause air to look for a way out of that hull. Where better than the side rears of that machine.

The Kawa Team has no holes there cause they get them right out of the molds. Not a hole or seat or hood not even a VIN, nothing but motor mount rails. Everthing else is made from carbon-fiber. Aftermarket parts and motors come by the crate full. Wondering if that pushing the production boat rule? Im shure my boat will be heavy compared to Macs. Looking at all the extras in my hull.

Im sure that RIVA will get me where I need to be......

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