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I just wanted to say that at the local ramp Sunday there were a few frowns.
Being that it was the first day around here in a month without rain there were plenty of skis out. Almost all teh people that came back had big smiles on there face from riding. Almost I said. There were 2 guys who came back that werent to happy. Both had 99 Ultras. 1 was just revving and moving 5 mph top speed. The other, lets just say he was towed in with a waterski rope. [Big Grin]

Been there, never again, yeah I am talking about you WETJET 200 DUO

Posts: 909 | Location: Ortley Beach, NJ | Registered: April 20, 2003

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something is not tuned correctly with the ultra , my friends stock ultra except for pump work that i did gpsed many times at 66 mph stock it ran mid 64's .
keep in mind that group k did not tune the ultra but just supplied the parts and package , just like with any package an experienced tuner is needed to get all the parts to work .

Posts: 1755 | Location: - new hampshire | Registered: November 24, 2000

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EXPGPR

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Not true, this Ultra was built and tuned @ Group K's shop by Harry K. At sea level it runs over 70 MPH, you have to remember we are at 2400' ASL and all the boats seem to run about 3 MPH slower here then at sea level.

Posts: 12 | Location: Edmonton Alberta | Registered: May 28, 2001

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ISLAND RACING

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sorry dana but that ultra WAS built by group k and that XLT WAS NOT built built by me--- i just supplied don s in canada with the parts--- 100% opposite of what your trying to imply---nice try though ( [Embarrassed]

yawn... )

Terry, I bet you cant wait till you get YOUR XLT up there and try that ultra out of the hole [Wink]

Don called me tonight to tell me that story and it was pretty funny the way he said it---especially when he said there were some pretty unhappy faces in the ultra camp.

Don---Good #'s on your unported- unmodified stock carbed, pump gas , on your fresh water pond at 2500 ft above sea level XLT [Big Grin]

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Posts: 907 | Location: ISLAND RACING | Registered: March 31, 2001

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elebouef

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Oh Boy, I know this will appear in the PWC Illustrated so I can read all about the Island setup.

Posts: 243 | Location: USA | Registered: October 11, 2001

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75 + Single

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Hi Dana
Since you mentioned it

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something is not tuned correctly with the ultra , my friends stock ultra except for pump work that i did gpsed many times at 66 mph stock it ran mid 64's .
keep in mind that group k did not tune the ultra but just supplied the parts and package , just like with any package an experienced tuner is needed to get all the parts to work .

I happened to be standing on the ramp in the Colorado River when Gerhart (Harry's brother) personally delivered the Ultra to Bill. This was the first time that Bill had ever seen the boat, since it had been picked up, built, tuned and tested extensively by Group K long before he ever saw it. Just like my two Island boats, one of which is in transit right now. I must have liked the first one, here I am back for more.
Carl
You must have spilled alot of LI water on Dons parts box, we are getting currents now in our fresh water ponds in Canada!!! I think tho that sending me that electrohydraulic current locater was a bit unfair. [Big Grin]

You know the drill. Line up with your buddy, locate a current, sneak onto the edge of it (while keeping him in calm water) and leave him scratching his noggin [Confused]

elly
Don't expect to find these boats in PWI, not unless they want to come to the great white north to ride them [Cool]

Terry

Posts: 175 | Location: Edmonton Alberta Canada | Registered: June 06, 2001

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HopatcongGPR

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Fast1

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here in MN a guy with a stock 00 Ultra that I ride with runs mid 65's at an elevation of 950ft.

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JetWash

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Posts: 378 | Location: Copiague | Registered: February 04, 2001

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if i were the guy with that ultra , id bring it back ! a ported , carbed, properly tuned ultra will be a lot faster than that, elevation plays a part , but come on now.............carl, you must be yawning from staying up so late looking in the mirror telling yourself how great you are, huh ! [Eek!]

Posts: 1755 | Location: - new hampshire | Registered: November 24, 2000

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ISLAND RACING

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Bottom line--- XLT 1 Ultra 0
If the ultra wasnt up to par why did it race???

Don--- Dont worry-- you can always add porting, carbs and maybe even a big bore also...

MIRROR, MIRROR ON THE WALL------WHO'S THE FASTEST OF THEM ALL-------LOLOLOLOL------
(sorry just had to)

( [Embarrassed]

yawn)

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LSU Tiger

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Posts: 186 | Location: Houston | Registered: May 29, 2002

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carl,
please be very careful how you word things. i did not "go out of business" as you stated. i mearly closed and focused on the familiy business, it makes way more money than playing with pwc. i will more than likely open again in the future but as of right now , i need to help my father . again, i did not go " out of business" . as far as the ultra and the xlt, i dont care who won, but to say the ultra was running the way it should was wrong...........it was not if it had the mods that were listed above.

Posts: 1755 | Location: - new hampshire | Registered: November 24, 2000

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HopatcongGPR

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quin, can i have some popcorn?

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need4pwr

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Can someone pass the gummy-bears? [Big Grin]

Posts: 602 | Location: New Jersey | Registered: June 11, 2001

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quote:
if i were the guy with that ultra , id bring it back ! a ported , carbed, properly tuned ultra will be a lot faster than that, elevation plays a part , but come on now.............carl, you must be yawning from staying up so late looking in the mirror telling yourself how great you are, huh !
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MODEL Stock Stage 1 Stage 2 1350 -91 octane Stage 2 100+ Octane 1350 100+ Octane
Ultra 150 62-63 65-66 69-70 68-69 70-71 71-72
STXR 1200 63 65 67 66 68 69

The format this came across in is not as clear as I would have liked, but here are the exact claimed speed numbers for a Stage 2 Ultra like Bill's. Their claim is 69-70 for this kit. The boat in fact ran 70+ in Arizona so in fact the boat is delivering better than their performance claims. BTW from here to Group K is a 25 hour drive-the chances of it going back are quite slim. Especially when it performs according to their specifications.

Terry

Posts: 175 | Location: Edmonton Alberta Canada | Registered: June 06, 2001

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Chris' GPR

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Originally posted by ISLAND RACING:

MIRROR, MIRROR ON THE WALL------WHO'S THE FASTEST OF THEM ALL-------LOLOLOLOL------
(sorry just had to)

( yawn)

RIVA

Posts: 472 | Location: New Hampshire | Registered: June 29, 2001

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terry,
who has tuned the boat since its 25 hour trip back up to the higher elevation?????? whoever did should re-tune it and if it has not been tuned for the higher elevation.........well nuff said.

Posts: 1755 | Location: - new hampshire | Registered: November 24, 2000

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EXPGPR

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Dana

You don't get the point, the Ultra runs just fine, in your backyard it will run 70+ all day long. It has been re-tuned for our altitude but unless we put some form of compressor under the seat it's going to be 3mph slower here then at sea level. We lose 3mph on the GPR's also. But on the flip side the XL's will gain 3mph when we take them to Arizona. Bottom line is I think the XL's will beat a 70mph Ultra here there or anywhere.
I hope you now understand this is not a tuning issue. If you think it is, Bill is into this Ultra so deep he would probably pay for you to fly up here to retune it for him all expenses paid. On condition you can tune enough speed into his Ultra to prevent him from turning into a Island XL sandwich when Terry and I run him this weekend.

Don

Posts: 12 | Location: Edmonton Alberta | Registered: May 28, 2001

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