would u BUY a 2002, 1200gpr for $6999. OTD
OR 2003, 1300 gpr for $7999. OTD

i am going tomorrow to buy the 1300,

my question is, is it that much different between last yrs. 02 model and this yrs 03 model,

if not then i might go with the 02 to save myself another grand.......

I ask my fellow bretheren to enlighten me and educate me, since i have owned neither,,

all opinions will be appreciated!!!!!!!!!

thanks, irv in kc

The 1300R is Fuel injected and much easier to modify and more importantly TUNE IN... Spend the extra $$$.

LIQUID MISSILE

Get the 1300. $1000 more well spent. It's a great ski that takes to mods even better than the 1200.

I love my GP1300R. I went riding to-day with my buddies on their XPL and RXDI and this boat literally blows them away. Calm water, chop, acceleration and top speed, makes no difference. It's like comparing a Harley to a rice rocket performance wise. Eleven hours on it, 2 bars of fuel and it GPS'ed at 65.6 bone stock. I am sure that when you are riding your new 1300, you'll feel as I do, that you are riding the best that's out there. PLUS, it gets half decent fuel milage providing you don't run at WOT all the time.

I have both ... the GP13r is the better ski.

I would go 1200 and spend the extra 1k elsewhere.

I am not to crazy about fuel injection. I just love the good old carbs, They are easier to tune and troubleshoot!!!!!!

I am starting to hear report of pump insert failures on the 1300's...........GO FIGURE

1300R

the count is 5 to 1 so far today,in favor of the 1300. usual suspects have weighed in, what about everyone else, since im hours away from picking up my new ski!!!!

I just want to pose the question,

Is the majority in favor of this new ski (1300) because it is the new kid on the block,, (i.e.yamaha bandwagon), or does it perform well enough to warrant the accolades??

let me know!!!!!
thanks..
irv in kc

1300

GP1300R!!!

I love mine,i,m at 4000ft. and i can get 63.0 to 63.2 anyday, Dont like the holeshot but that will soon be fixed

No replacement for displacement. 1300. Real happy w/ mine.

I just bought a new 1300R and got it in the water last week. I am still breaking it in and being nice to it, but got on it quickly and was very impressed with the acceleration. I cant wait until break in is over and I can run it hard.

One quick question: What are some basic mods that you guys would reccomend for the 1300R? I was thinking of the free-flow kit, can you do just this single mod(i plan more in the future) and will it effect driveability?

1200R

Fercho, I know you love carbs and you're the resident carb guru but why would you want carbs? With the simplicity of the Riva efi unit why would you ever want to fool around with carbs again?

I had previous experience with Fuel injection. My main concern corrosion of aftermarket electrical components. Moisture will find its way into them if they are not properly sealed. I have seen pictures of the Riva unit and I am concern about its location and the water tighteness of the box. I could be wrong. You now got circuits, condensors and capacitors that regulate fuel delivery. In a four stroke it was a pain in the rear to troubleshoot aftermarket FI components. On a two stroke I can only imagen. I have seem computers exposed to light floods where we come out and do quick cleanups and recoveries. As soon as water touches a circuit the board is almost fried

Dealers know will have computerized equipment to troubleshoot How about you???

Because this is a craft that gets lots of expousure to the water I would have to stay with the good old carbs!!!!!!!

I suspect that Riva may develop an affordable carb conversion kit for the 1300R that will enhanced even more performance of their current packages

One more thing my opinion is based on how far I would take this ski to as far as performance. If you plan to leave it stock I would go with the 1300. If you plan to modify it the way that we do on this forum I would go 1200.

Again that is my opinion.

I am sure that I will find a Stage II 1300R and I will put it against my 1200/1300 for comparasion under the same waters and weather conditions.

Regardless of which one you choose there are things that need to be addressed even before you hit the water. Power valve cable tension and clips, pump sealing and plug kit...A MUST BEFORE YOU EVEN HIT THE WATER!!!!!!

[ 06-10-2003, 01:47 PM: Message edited by: Fercho ]

Fercho, that makes good sense, the reliability remains to be seen. However don't forget the simplicity of simply changing the efi box. On the 1300, instead of removing the pipe or having to install a stinger for carb access, you simply have 3 dials to turn!

just brought home the 1300, sitting in the driveway with a full tank of gas with 0.0 hrs on it...

ran around all day to pay sales tax, registration, season pass to the local watering holes..

tried to make it to the water, then it began to rain....

guess what i will be doing on sunday for fathers day!!!!!


as far as mods for my boat, simple ones, for handling and top end, intake grate, ride plate, pump plug kit, so far....

Congrats on your purchase! You made the right choice!