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I have a question to all of the STXR owners on this board.
I was at the races this weekend and a guy told me that he was racing his stock class STXR in the 1200 limited class because his limited boat was broken. I watched him race and he absolutly anhilated the compitition even the 800 superstock, and 1200 superstock skis which were running at the same time due to the small turnout. This STXR was incredably fast off the line and down the straights, he got the holeshot every time. I only know what one of the other skis was running which was a very fast XPL which had a Mel Miller big bore motor with pipes and absolutly everything else that is allowed in the limited class and he to had his @$$ handed to him by this supposidly stock class STXR.
My question is this: Do you think an STXR with just an impeller, flame arrestors, intake grate, rideplate, and sponsons is capable of putting such a whooping on these other skis or do you think the guy with the STXR was pulling my leg and that it was probably actually a limited class boat???? I have ridden a bone stock STXR and it was no where near as fast as the STXR at the races, not even close.
Your honest oppinion would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
 
Posts: 562 | Location: Phoenix | Registered: November 08, 2001Edit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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I know that my Ultra with ADA Head, Shimmed pump, R&D Auquavien Intake Grate, Shredmaster Rideplate, and a Solas Dynafly 16/20 will holeshot even with an STXR and then start to pull away......if this provides any insight....the STXR is fast out the hole though for sure!
 
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[Big Grin]

Maybe it was your holders?
 
Posts: 4592 | Location: Mesa, Arizona | Registered: March 15, 2002Edit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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I think the guy was just messing with you.....while the stxr does have the best hole shot, it is not as fast as what you are describing. A stock stxr would get lapped in a true limited 1200 class or even 800 super stock class. And just as a reference, I race a triple piped/race gas burning stxr in Rochester....I got the hole shot on him and then we were pretty even (I couldnt pull away or he couldnt pass me) but when I hit the really rough stuff on the back stretch, I spent some time in the air while he walked on bye........It's a nice boat for sure! I would recomend it and buy one for racing! [Wink]
 
Posts: 1393 | Location: Toronto/Ontario | Registered: June 27, 2001Edit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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I raced a stock STXR last summer.
I used my modded 99GP1200 which you can see my mods in my signature below.
He smoked me off the line and I was unable to obviously catch him. The 99 ultra 150(their fastest year stock) is neck and neck with my ski from start to finish.
That STXR is everything you said it was!!
 
Posts: 909 | Location: Ortley Beach, NJ | Registered: April 20, 2003Edit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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I know someone who has one for sale.. 7500 bucks and its bonestock with only 16 hours on it. You can do some testing!
Tracy
 
Posts: 5 | Location: Arizona | Registered: June 08, 2003Edit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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I know someone who has one for sale.. 7500 bucks and its bonestock with only 16 hours on it. You can do some testing!
Tracy [Embarrassed]
 
Posts: 5 | Location: Arizona | Registered: June 08, 2003Edit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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NO NO NO NO NO the guy was full of sh#t.a stock stxr is no faster than a stock gpr,a stage two stxr is no faster than a stage two gpr and a triple pipe stxr is no faster than a triple pipe gpr.where the stxr does shine is its rough water hook up it will out pull a gpr,xpl,or ultra in rough water.i know we have a stage two and triple pipe stxr that we race out of our shop,along with four triple pipe gpr,s,one thing about the hook up of the triple pipe stxr is that in rough water it will literally pull your arms out of your sockets its got that much pull. nuff said.MARK RPM RACING
 
Posts: 219 | Location: desert hills az | Registered: December 22, 2002Edit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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That's not what you guys were telling Tracy about his STXR!
 
Posts: 4592 | Location: Mesa, Arizona | Registered: March 15, 2002Edit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Mark what are you talking about???? MARK RPM RACING
 
Posts: 219 | Location: desert hills az | Registered: December 22, 2002Edit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Mark, I forgot to give you my stock head. Sorry man but we all bolted out of there so fast I just forgot. Let me know if you want me to ship it to you or hold on to it until next time. Thanks again for allowing me to help out in the pits, I learn something new everytime I get together with you and larry [Cool] [Big Grin]
 
Posts: 1650 | Location: san diego | Registered: July 19, 2002Edit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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You guys said his was too fast to be stock.
 
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Remember, "stock class" doesn't mean "bone stock". With that said, A "stock class" STX-R is quite capable of racing against and beating limited/superstock boats. It depends on the following conditions:

Rider skill
water conditions
Type of race - CC, Endurance, drag
Length to the first turn
Length between bouys
Length of race - i.e. If an STX-R holes shots on a 5 lap race, odds are a triple piped boat won't have enough time to catch up and pass the STX-R, especially if the course is short.

I have seen an stock class STX-R beat a carbon fiber STX, carbon fiber ZXI, and my own SS GPR - all in the same race because the conditions above all matched up, stars were aligned etc...

Is that the norm - no. But it can be done. I'm sure we've all heard the term "on any given day" right? Thats how Ultras and Sea-doos earn their glory. [Big Grin]
 
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Mark maybe larry said that i didn't,let me restate are testing,before we even started modifying the stxr,s we took them out and got base line numbers completely stock,those numbers compared to a gpr completly stock,we did the same thing to three other stxr,s that belonged to customers,same numbers,maybe a little .5 mile here a .5 mile there but pretty close.then proceeded with the stage two testing same results compared to a stage two gpr, same as the triple pipe. i repeat the stxr shines in the rough water it will out pull a gpr.nuff said MARK RPM RACING
 
Posts: 219 | Location: desert hills az | Registered: December 22, 2002Edit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Joe no problem with the head we'll do it another time.i want to thank you once again for all your help you were great.i hope the family had a great time at the races, btw the problem with the yellow flame boat was not blown reeds.it was a ruptered return fuel line,somehow it got pinched between the number one pipe and the fuel tank.go figure.MARK RPM RACING
 
Posts: 219 | Location: desert hills az | Registered: December 22, 2002Edit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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WELL **** , Guess thats cheaper and easier to replace than reeds. Im sure you will woop em next time mark.FYI We took the 95south all the way to the 8 it was fast and easy and we got a great look at the parker **** . Gracy and the kids had a blast. She dropped a bomb on me on the way home stating that racing was to expensive and she doesnt want me to do it. She has no problem with me helpin you guys out but Im a little frustrated right now. Oh well cant live with them and cant live without them. [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
 
Posts: 1650 | Location: san diego | Registered: July 19, 2002Edit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Our local ss novice champ had a bone stock STXR at the begining of the season and for most of it with winning results. The STXR is NOT THAT fast, it is however THAT QUICK! Top end matters very little on the track, you need globs of hookup and bottom end torque and here is where the STXR shines and the GPR doesn't, I do believe a stock class STXR can out holeshot and eventually beat a limited GPR and even quite a few s/s GPRs on the track. No matter what water conditions are, unless you are riding against a small field on a short track, the race course will get narly enough for the STXR to be in it's element, after that the water conditions are added to the mix making it either steady chop or more narly by the second, so no matter how you slice it it's STXR land.
 
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Tell that to nicholas riuz, He lapped every stxr and gpr @ havasu this past weekend. There was no question that his abiltiy and his gpr was superior to anything out there. It wasnt even close. stxr or not it got lapped.
 
Posts: 1650 | Location: san diego | Registered: July 19, 2002Edit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Riuz didn't race CC.

That stxr was fast! Out of the hole and nobody could catch him. Superman across the finish.
 
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did i say he raced cc?
 
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