Well like I said I have ridden a bone stock STXR and while it was quick I dont think it was anywhere near as quick and fast as the "stock class" STXR I saw at the races. If you can get that kind of performance with just a few simple mods then everyone should be riding an STXR because it was a FAAAAAAAAAST CC ski!!!
If it was truly a limited boat I would expect that kind of performance but if was a stock class boat my hat is off to the guy

They aren't THAT fast in stock class trim...

Sorry,
Thought this was about stxr's on CC.

I'm not gonna argue with you David, I now what was raced in region 8 I know what that boat did and what it did was repeatedly out holeshot Darrell's s/s before they started moding it. I'm not making claims for the boat, just reporting facts as I saw them with my own eyes. Scott's STXR started the season with just shims for the rideplate and F/As. Stock everywhere else and it was whooping everyone, granted the courses were pretty tight.

Mario.....someone emailed me about a Full blown STXR for sale........has everything, So I might be picking it up.....I will know more next week. I am still trying to decide if I should fix the hull and replace the carbon fiber seat on my current boat.....or just start over with a new boat. I think it's time for a change anyways, I need something new to play with.

Atta boy!!!

Hey, you coming to Sakett's?

There were not that many STXR racers in last week ends race at havasu. I only heard of one racing novice and I have seen it run at a local lake as well as the limited he rides ,and the limited is much faster. He told me he has more trouble with the sea doos than with the yamahas in the stock class. Was this guy that spanked in novice or an expert ? This guy's name was Brown but I cant remember his first name.

hey mario,thanks for the kind words.but the facts are off a bit,the ski we started with last year had a head [150 psi] and a advent ignition ,everything else was stock including the flame arrestor.ski ran 64 mph on gps.with the triples it now runs around 70.i would love to race some of the canadian guys with my ss stx.way better holeshot than the stxr.top speed doesn't mean nuthin to me.i wanna get out first and let the rest of the field try and catch me.a 65 mph ski that leaves good and hooks up can win a whole lot of cc races.it's bouy to bouy speed that matters.heck in wilwood in the ocean i would dare say a stock stxr could easily win ss class.it's all rider out there.i know i plan on
riding the ltd in wildwood.the ss would be way too much.it needs to quit raining so i can practice.us old guys dont do well without practice.see you and the cosca crew there,scott
team scotts racing

All depends on the ridder period.....

I went to the national races in FT Walton beach, FL this weekend and the gpr's won over the stxr's skis in almost every race. There was about 3-5 feet of surf also.

http://www.efreaked.com/mypics/jetski/FWBrace/

Nice job with those pic's Efreak!! Wish I was there!

Thanks for the correction Scott, I knew the mods were almost nonexcistent and we had talked about the f/a but I guess you said "I even have the stock f/a still on" Teaches me to keep my mouth shut unless I have the facts straight.Anyway I do agree that the rider has a lot to do with it, specially when conditions are tough. Proof is in the puddin I couldn't beat my own GP as the guy ridding it totally outclassed me, but then again if I do say so myself, that GP is a bitchin ride Oh, did I mention it's for sale?

[ 06-10-2003, 11:45 AM: Message edited by: gp12sjtxr ]

GPR1200R-acer,

For anyone wondering about the difference in how a stage 3 GPR & a Stage 3 STX-R acts under race conditions ( endurance ) I may be able to shed some light as well as Mark & Larry with RPM Racing. We are running both boats in Region 5. I will say this off the top, the triple STX-R will humble the riding skills of novice racers such as we are. It is a hand full. Much more difficult to become comfortable with than the GPR. Must go for now. Check back later.

Well one thing im sure of is that a stock class GPR or XPL wouldnt have a freaking chance in heII aginst this "stock class" STXR. He had almost 1/2 lap lead on the rest of the field by the end of the race.
If I see him again I think I will ask him to show me what he has under the seat.

Well, here in Region 5 (Third Coast Racing)at the first three race events our stock legal STX-R ridden by Brian Smith has grabbed 6 out of 6 holeshots and won 5 out of 6 motos (he did miss a buoy on the last lap at the first event down in Houston). There are 3 other STX-Rs, 2 XPLs, 1 RXX, 2 GPRs, and maybe one or two Polaris Pro 785 or 1200s in his class. The same boat and rider also won a heat race at Havasu last year as well. In fact, it has stirred up so much controversy in our region that people have come out and said there's no way we could win by the margin we have won by so we must be cheating.

Also, James Shrader has won all 4 motos and grabbed 4 out of 4 holeshots in the Limited class (two events) on a single piped Limited spec STX-R. There are two triple piped GPRs, 2 RXXs, 3 XPLs, an Ultra 150, and 2-3 other STX-Rs in his class.

Shrader has also won 5 out of 6 motos in Novice 1200 Superstock on a single piped (almost Limited legal) STX-R. All it has is a carbon fiber cowling and a modified waterbox that seperates it from being a "light" Limited legal raceboat. There are many multiple piped GPRs, RXXs and XPLs in his class as well. Shrader even passed a triple piped GPR on the back straight like he was standing still and 7 other competitors in just 4 laps to win this past weekend after not only having to start with a dead motor, but also they made him turn his boat around so it faced the crowd.It was one of the best motos I've seen in 14 years....

Bottom line is this: The STX-R can be made to compete against much faster competition when it comes to closed course, for not a lot of dough. In the Superstock class, our STX-R is 10-12 mph slower (smooth water peak speeds) than many of the skiis we compete against, but we get to the first turn first and when it gets choppy our STX-Rs are in their own element.

For all you doubters and disbelievers, check out the results page at:

www.Thirdcoastracing.com

:-)

James Crone
Performance Engineering

[ 06-10-2003, 07:49 PM: Message edited by: James Crone ]

Well James, you are making me think what Im about to do is the right choice

Jim are the other STXRs placing 2nd, 3rd and 4th in the motos or is it REALLY the rider that is doing well?

no gp 12 the mods i listed are exactly what i had.i dont need to bs anyone.i did forget that we added shims under the stock plate to push the nose over and beach house sponsons.against a a stock r our ski was maybe two to three lengths quicker thru the mid and two mph faster on top.everything else was STOCK.i still prefer my old stlye stx.but for the money to build a competitive stxr you really cant go wrong.and by the way i am by no means a skilled rider.when you get out front it makes your job a whole lot easier.See ya at the races ,scott team scotts racing