Not sticking up for Fercho but pictures can say a thousand words... That is the worst job I have ever seen done. Why in gods name would anyone use bondo on the intake parts??

Elfy how many wins do you have??

Elfy other than you sounding like a complete Jackass I don't think you are all that stupid to see there is a problem with those pics...

I do believe Fercho is old enough to fight his own battles but since you bring it into a public forum I guess I can give my $.02 worth here.. Is that good enough for you there Elephant Boy or should I ask my mommies persion next time to see if I can voice my opinion? Troll.......

elf,
just curious, what ski do you have?
have you ever raced? (anything)
do you do your own work?
just trying to get a perspective on where you ar coming from.

Looks to me like WCOT puts all its quality efforts into its racing efforts in order to promote thier sales to everyone else. But doing to that ski what they did tells me there not a place to do business with.

Looks like they treat someone thats not on thier teem as second rate.

Pictures don't lie!

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a rod when thru the case about a month ago when David was flushing the water out of the engine

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did you pull the plugs and evacuate the water before starting it? how could you run the motor with water in it like that? no wonder the rod went thru the case.

also, why would they even touch the fiberglass/smc (whatever it is) on the hull....they are not a body repair shop. they take the stock metal parts and modify those.

what kind of fuel and oil were you running, this makes a big difference on howw the reeds hold up, and were these stock or AM reeds?

You better watch it Mr. LSU Tiger, they are going to call you a troll, because you don't agree with them.
mxvet, I don't own a ski, because they are to nosy, put to much oil in the water,pollute the air, kill people, and most of all they are very unsafe.

Hey guys, I am back. Remember when I was on here awhile back, I could not speak to good, well nite school has done wonders. But I see some one else better go to school:
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The original carb jets where re-drilled and the OEM head was machines a cut out to be used with o-rings intead of a gasket
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Not trying to start a war but I was jumped on when I spoke like that awhile back.
Ele, you should not get in here if you do not have a ski.

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elf
so what exactly is you interest here? most of us have raced (bikes or skis) do our own work and farm out the rest to people we know and trust. we know what it takes to be competitive week after week and know the sacrifices it take to WIN.
if you have nothing better to do than stir up trouble, i'm sure there are many forums you can do so on, but it appears you have no connection with a sport we know and love.............
so go away. we do not need your poison here. find some other focus in your life and leave us alone...

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Originally posted by mxvet1:
elf
so what exactly is you interest here? most of us have raced (bikes or skis) do our own work and farm out the rest to people we know and trust. we know what it takes to be competitive week after week and know the sacrifices it take to WIN.
if you have nothing better to do than stir up trouble, i'm sure there are many forums you can do so on, but it appears you have no connection with a sport we know and love.............
so go away. we do not need your poison here. find some other focus in your life and leave us alone...

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I think that when one person among thousands slanders the good name of a reputable tuner, then there is margin for recourse, as is this case.

How about if someone comes on this board and says...."Dont' send your GPR to RIVA", and then shows you some pix that for all you know could be the work that you attempted to do in your own garage.....which is what those pix look like......

I think Fercho didn't get what he wanted, then made up some stuff to slander this company, just to get back at them......pretty immature in my opinion.....

But I slept at Holiday Inn Express !!!!

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LSU Tiger what makes you think that I wanted something from WCOT. I dont even know the guy, nor have ever done any business with him.

Slander someones name??? Why would I maliciously do such a think. You mut think that I have a vendata against WCOT.

Let me clarify this David was trying to empty the water out of his exhaust, he had just finished racing and had the ski on the trailer getting ready to go home, there was no water ingestion.

I think Fercho didn't get what he wanted, then made up some stuff to slander this company, just to get back at them......pretty immature in my opinion.....

Your thinking is wrong and for anyone to do anything like could place that person in a court of law for defamation and slander... You must be out of your mind if you think that I would do such a thing. By the way I am not in the watercraft business. My field is somewhere else, as far as David Mclendon...I did not make a penny of him. I just lend a helping hand, just like I have done with many others.........See watercraft is my pasion not my life......May be one day I will go in business and open up a full time shop but not here in the mainland.......ALOHA.


By the way I understnd now why they call you a Tiger not because you are fearless but because YOU STINK!!!!!!!

How about if someone comes on this board and says...."Dont' send your GPR to RIVA", and then shows you some pix that for all you know could be the work that you attempted to do in your own garage.....which is what those pix look like......

Apparently you have not been on this forum long enough. I will voice my opinion either good or bad againt any Riva products. As a customer I have the right to do it. Now Riva knows that, but at the same time credit must be given when deserved also.

You must live in a malicious world. You do not have to belive anything. You wanted pictures you got them. If you dont want to belive it dont...... I could care less. But I will make public any good or bad information that I come across that can benefit anyone else. As long as it is truthful and correct I dont give a rat's a$$ who doesn't like it.

Elf boy as far as calling me Talibanco I could care less. If sitting on a flag pole to you is patriotic then dont get up.


Fercho

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WHAT DOES ALL OF THIS HAVE TO DO WITH HONING CYLIDERS ?!

Hey Elf boy sounds to me that you are a racist.. Don't think so then get off of your Talibanco kick you Troll and bring in some good information that proves Fercho wrong..

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By the way I understnd now why they call you a Tiger not because you are fearless but because YOU STINK!!!!!!![/QB]

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Thats a classic !

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Originally posted by jet-trix ,perf.:
WHAT DOES ALL OF THIS HAVE TO DO WITH HONING CYLIDERS ?!

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I replied that WCOT could hone the nicasil cylinders as they did mine, and Fercho's only response was "Don't send your GPR to WCOT".....

They did my cylinders and they did a good job. Now I must say, I don't know Fercho, and I read on here more than post. The intention of my original post was actually not to say send your cylinders to WCOT, but rather to imply that honing nicasil could be done and that there are shops with the know how to hone these cylinders properly.

I just felt like that was an attack, and that it was being impled that that this business is sub-standard....obviously somebody had a bad experience, which is a shame....I'm through with this subject, and will not argue any of these symantics any further.......let's all have a good weekend riding our skis and by all means BE SAFE!

Honing GPR Cylinders / Correctly


The key word here is CORRECTLY, that is what you asked MD.

Diamond hone is the ONLY hone that will do the job correctly.
Will a dingle berry hone cut new crosshatch? NO
How do I know...because I tried it many times? It looks like it is cutting the chrome but all your seeing is mostly residue from the stones. Measure it, you’ll see you haven’t removed any material not even .001”unless you reamed on it for 1/4 hour, probably creating taper and out of round. Next time you have ball honed a chrome cyl.clean it up as best you can then put it next to a diamond honed or new or replated cyl.Now look at the differance.The crosshatch on the ball honed cly is light and not deep you have actually removed crosshatch not cut any. The diamond honed cly has deep distinct crosshatch patterns. This is what it takes for rings to seat and then seal to their full potential. This distinct crosshatch pattern is measured in RMS.There are different RMS finishes that the ring manufactures want for their rings to seat quickly and fully.There is no way a dingle berry hone can make the proper RMS finish on a chrome cly.
Will a dingle ball hone do this?
Deglazes
Remove taper
Straightens an out of round cylinder

A diamond hone will do all the above.

Will a chrome cly work after it is ball honed.Yes, it will run.
Will it last as long? No.
Will it have blow-by? Yes.
Will it perform as good as a cly CORRECTLY honed? Not a chance.
Can you win races with a ball honed cly? YES.

Just my opinion, however
I think you will find that many well respected people who deal with chrome cly all the time feel the same way. Try talking to US Chrome they are the chrome cly experts.

My conversations with Eric Gorr netted the same answers as you are writting above, I agree with 100% on all points. If you consider the cost of having it done properly it's a no brainer to begin with.

Dont let Watercross of Texas touch your GPR

That was my reply and as you can see I specifically stated GPR. I hear abuot the wonders that he does to the Kawi's and that it is why I stated GPR only........Every business has had a bad experienced at one time or another, that I can not deny. My intentions where not of attacking anyone, but to make everyone aware of what I have seen. This is just the only job from WCOT that I have seen.

Elf boy as far as being Colombian, yes I was born there, proud of my latin heritage but an even more proud of being an American citizen. I have been here most of my life so your worthless comments dont even tickle me. For the information that I can gather you seem very young anywhere between 16-25 with the IQ of a peanut.

There is not a racial comment that you can make that will get to me....You see I have worked hard to get what I got and am surrounded by people just like me from many backgrounds who like to help each other without looking at where we are from. Remember that one day you may need that foreign national to lend a helping hand, YOU JUST NEVER KNOW WHEN!!!!!!!

ALLCOOL you are correct!!!!!!!!

Sorry that this thread turned into a pi$$ing contest, I just had to let this be known.

Pat thanks for backing me up on this one. These guys are classics