Hey guys ... I think I'm part of the Yamaha PV problem club. Here's what I know at this point. I was riding a river yesterday at a steady 5000-5500 rpm. I had an immediate loss of power with a noise similar to a plugged intake but much louder accompanied with heavy vibration. It felt like I lost a cylinder, then the engine died. Restarted, and limped to shore (about 20 feet), then got just a click from the starter. Intake was free of debris, but I haven't had a chance for a visual. The 13r has 13+ hours. Is this PV's?

[ 05-03-2003, 12:29 AM: Message edited by: WaveRunnerGreg ]

I don't know what it is, but it sounds like Yamaha still can't get it right.

That sucks. Being that it's under warranty, let's see what your dealer says becuase inspecting it yourself is not an option.

probably those good ol' PVs dude...

How did you like the river.
Did you run out of gas, was told you were running very low. Watch out for those little hick store gas pumps, most are full of low octane $hit water gas.
Where did you break down?

Doesn't sound good - keep us posted on what happend. Just rolled 14 hrs on mine...

Oh boy! Here we go again. Yamaha is going down the tubes fast. Sorry to hear about your ski though.

I would say a crank or piston/cylinder seizure
or maybe a oil injection lubrication problem.

Did you add oil to the fuel during break in?

Have you had to add oil to the oil injection since you purchased the ski?

i hope you didn't buy your ski from Barnie's, you already know if you did that the ski will sit in the shop for weeks until they can get one of their incompitent techs to look at it .Hopefully you got it from Action in Bradenton ....if you bought it from another dealer Action will still service (warrenty) you (tell them about barnie's and they'll understand)

were you at the ALAFIA river????? i ride that river occasianally.........sorry to here about your ski.............Most ski's (yamaha's) during the first 10-15 hrs have problems.......I did on my 1200......sort of like working out the bugs...once its worked out i'd say you should be problem free for awhile......sounds like pv out of alighnment ...its time while its in the shop to do the powercore(new 1300 d-plate)remove cat , and the k&n(riva) power filter gimmick, prop, etc....

BTW i was at the courtney campbell causeway a week ago and a guy w/ a brand new 1300 was there, he had only 5 hrs on ski(still in the break in process)We ( a bunch of heavily modded Gpr1200's)
conned him into raceing and got him to gps the 1300 as well....61.4 is all he got , mind you the break in...he did jump a boat lenghth on some less modded 1200's but didn't have enough top to come close yet!!!!! what are you running?

Still bone stock with ~10 hrs - I was seeing 61.5 - 62 with a full tank. Once that burned off to a 1/4 tank it was running 64.5 - 65.

Please let Us know If the ring pin drifted in & rhe ring spun to the EX port.

Is there I hunk of cylindre missing at the large port?

You Know If it is a a PV I would demand My money BACK
That would be pathetic!

Yammaha's Just have too many Issues
What is up with this co.It is either Piston ring pins,PV's ,cranks, cats,poor pump sealing , when does it end.

Did you add oil to the fuel during break in?
Yes oil was added to the fuel as stated in the owners manual.

Have you had to add oil to the oil injection since you purchased the ski?
Yes ... added for the first time and toped it off with about 3/4 of a gal before taking it out this time. When adding, I remember thinking that my GP12r would have used considerably more then 3/4 gal.

Is there I hunk of cylindre missing at the
large port?
I'm not going to tear into it ... let Yamaha fix their mistakes. But I will be involved enough to find out the cause and how they fix it.

You Know If it is a a PV I would demand My money BACK.
I'm not going down that road. I've been doing this to much on the car side to know that will never happen. It's not worth the time, angor, and effort, even trying. I'll be happy with a good repair.

How did you like the river.
Man was that a cool ride. I will be going back there soon. It's the best place I've ever rode. I never thought fresh water could offer so much.

Did you run out of gas, was told you were running very low. Where did you break down?

We never ran out of gas cause my ski broke down about 10 miles north of the 3rd lock from Lake Okeechobee. Do you know Larry? We rode with him and would like to contact him about going again?

Greg, did you check the pump? I had a similar situation with my GPR last year while riding, large vibration, motor died, wouldn't turn over. After checking it when on the trailer it was a rock wedge in between the impellor blades binding on the wear ring. Took the pump off and got the rock out and it cured the problem. Just a thought.

I'm from Tampa also. Where are you guys putting in at on the Alafia River? I've been riding the Gulf for the last 3 years and need a new change. If possible post directions from say, 275-Howard Franklin.

Thanks!

Anyone riding in the PWC Rally on St. Pete Bch May 10-11??

TM ...i ride in the Alafia River at least 2-3 times a month..... you can e-mail me sammygpr@aol.com or send me a private message 275 to i-4 towards orlando...get off at 301 towards riverview ...the alafia is located approx 15-20 min once off interstate .......if need moore specific directions ..contact me!!

If you've purchased your new 1300 with Yamaha credit you'll have a huge amount of leverage to obtain another "new" 1300R as a replacement. Use that leverage, if you have it, with Yamaha corporate customer service.

Thas is assuming that you've had an internal engine failure of significant magnatude.

lots of people includeing my roomates gpr had a major engine problem w/ in just a couple of months of ownership...and it was in the shop for 3-4 months ...we called yamaha corprate cs...and they gave us the run-a-round......on yamaha credit card too..........anyone out there ever had yamaha replace a ski for a new one due to factory defect ectc..????

Why most people have problem w/ their GPR, I have zero problem since I bough it (knock on wood), I must have the good one
Sorry to hear your problem greg.