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Yep....let the crying begin.

From the Doo Mecca board:

"RXP 6400 rpm, blew up the supercharger after
5 hours on it.
octane 95, normally 8100 rpm!!
I've heard it today from my dealer.
First one in Holland."

So...is this warranteed? How many hours before it's not? How much do you think this will cost?


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Posts: 1995 | Location: Florida | Registered: April 18, 2002Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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oh i have afriend with this problen 6500.i will talk thim tomorow and tell about check the sc
 
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Big Grin guess they kinda asked for that one.
 
Posts: 238 | Location: n.c. | Registered: October 16, 2003Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Yeah Jarrett..I figured you'd be tempted to answer this thread..whoever this guy is, I'm sure you can consul with him the typical Sea Doo blather on how great the RXP is. He will be comforted to know, he has the "fastest production ski" when he has to re-build it.

My whole point about the 4-stroke fixation right now, is the cost for re-build. The summer is just beginning and the stories will grow like weeds. Has nothing to do with Sea Doo and everything to do with cost effectiveness. Not to mention the egomaniacal attitudes I have read about and seen firsthand. Must be dealer induced..I've never seen anything like it..you buy an RXP and voila', you're the baddest dude on the planet..unless you happen to be in Fort Walton beach last weekend. 4 down and many more to go...this I am sure.

Too bad for the "lucky" ones who are sitting on a 5-6 thousand dollar re-build and don't even know it yet.


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If the guy is from Nederlands and uses 95 he doesn't use enough octane.
In Europe they call their gas by their RON, in USA they use RON+MON/2
Meaning that a 95 has a RON of 95, but a MON of only 85, if this gas was sold in USA it would be advertized as 95+85/2=90.
Maybe not enough.

That said J you are safe, that comes from Europe, so it didn't happen.
Like Oleron doesn't happen either next week end.
Over there they're already forecasting how many of those stock RXPs will cross the finish line, or even see the sunday.
11

PS : Friend of mine in France had the same problem at 13hrs.


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I think RockyPointJoe's SC went blower-toe-up. I hear he had reeeeal fine service too. Roll Eyes


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I work at a powersports dealer.. We have sold about 15... 3 of them have had some engine problems.

Another dealer has been selling Rxp's $100 over cost + tax... They have about 10 boats in their shop right now... but their volume is pretty significant.


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i have 40.5 very HARD hours on my RXP and have absolutely no problems thus far. Im sure my time is coming, but every ski has its problems dont they?
 
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Jarret my local dealership have only replaced one cat con on a 66v engine back in 1999..MINE

What does that mean???


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J that's getting serious, you start bonding with Frew and now you believe your dealer... Roll Eyes

How low can you get to make a point?


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I hear that new oil to stop the slippage is worth a good 2 mph on the top end Roll Eyes


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quote:
RXP 6400 rpm, blew up the supercharger after5 hours on it.


How about asking the proper question of what the heck was he doing running it WOT so early for? How did he know it redlined at 8100 when he is supposed to vary the speed up to 3/4 throttle for the first 10 hours? The big problem is when he takes it to the dealer and they look at the history via BUDS and say you didn't follow instructions.


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I'd say, it's a good excuse for blaming the consumer for a defective product.

old or new, the clutch should not start slipping.


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quote:
Originally posted by Mark C.:
I'd say, it's a good excuse for blaming the consumer for a defective product.

old or new, the clutch should not start slipping.


Agree, a clutch should not start slipping early but also there should be some understanding from owners that if they don't follow basic breakin, there may be consequences.. Before anyone jumps to comclusions, I would like to hear real findings on it. There could also be a mfg defect (missed washer) on his SC. There have been a couple of reports on that over the past 1 1/2 years. What is funny is one issue and a whole ski/product is denounced as a failure. Hmmm, all PV Yamaha engines would be off the market by now if that is how it works Wink


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2002 FX140, Riva Set-Back Impeller, Riva Power Filter
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Yes, but the Sea Doo crowd stand violently behind there product. This is the same rhetoric that was going around when the RXX came out.

...or when the GSXL in 97.5.
...or the delaminating XPL hulls in 98/99
...or the water ingestion on ALL the 951s.

To ignore this issue would be the same as ignoring the power valve issues on Yamaha...stupid, and costly to the consumer.


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SeaDoo does have an improved kit as a warranty item for the '03 SCs. Until this, I haven't heard of any '04s loosing the SC clutch with the new one that is why I would like to hear the official diagnosis. I have heard of updated old ones still having some issues but those were due to missing washers or excessive wear on the shaft.

Unfortunately, regardless of manufacturer (including auto industry), some items get recalled, others fixed only if it breaks, some see service bulletins, and others upgraded in the next model year.


2003 SC 4-TEC, OPAS Block Off, Pump Wedge, R&D Intake Grate, '04 Pump, Skat Trak 16/21, Finger Throttle, Hydro Turfs
2002 FX140, Riva Set-Back Impeller, Riva Power Filter
2004 Sugar Sand Tango Jetboat
 
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mjammer, you start sounding like a SeaDoo rep...
Or Jarrett...


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I am picking up my SC today with my second clutch my new ceramic clutch lasted 5.4 hours talked to my dealer yesterday and he said mine was sliping with just 3#`s of pressure I was running synthetic oil so I hope this one will last I will know after this weekend I plan on a couple of long trips. I think the whole idea of a clutch is completly unnessary
 
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quote:
Originally posted by 11:
mjammer, you start sounding like a SeaDoo rep...
Or Jarrett...


Sorry 11, I just don't like the sky is falling comments on any manufacturer. It especially bothers me when all we hear was it broke without the final analysis on what happened but everyone else seems to know the answer and it always seems to be the manufacturer who isn't someone elses preference. It is just one of those things that gets under my skin.

Everything mechanical can have issues, we all know that. The more complex they get, the higher the risk and more potential for mfg issues too. Overall, the SCs, for the volume they have sold, have been very reliable. The same can be said for all the PV engines (of course a PV failure cost me a grand a few years ago). Heck, my wifes FX140 was almost taken out due to a stupid mis-installed o-ring from the factory. I am sure there are some good STXR stories out there too that could cause some people to go against your preference.


2003 SC 4-TEC, OPAS Block Off, Pump Wedge, R&D Intake Grate, '04 Pump, Skat Trak 16/21, Finger Throttle, Hydro Turfs
2002 FX140, Riva Set-Back Impeller, Riva Power Filter
2004 Sugar Sand Tango Jetboat
 
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shhr

I see you are on number 3 now. Ouch!


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